• Rob Spectre
  • 01
  • Dec
  • 08

“We’re doing this live up here. This is happening right here, in this moment,” the woman on the stage effused.  “None of this is rehearsed.”

As if the preceding five minutes of music performance were not sufficient evidence.  The single white females around me cast their stinkest eye as their rapturous attention was broken by a fit of laughter from our crew.

We had rolled into Slim’s to get in a solid Day After Thanksgiving show, hoping to shock our collective food coma from hanging over the rest of the long weekend.  Upcoming served up a promising lead, a local Irish band with traditional flavor and six mile mean streak.  Named for the hero of ancient Irish literature, Culann’s Hounds suggested four Warped Ones including a punk-looking dame with a low-slung melodeon and a fierce percussionist wielding a bodhran bigger than a Buick LaSabre.  A few streams and I was sold, promising our merry band a raucous evening filled with whiskey and song.

“Who’s opening?” Zack asked.

“It’s an Irish show dude,” I reassured him.  “How bad can the opener be?”

Some day I am going to learn to stop tempting the fate of a city this spectacularly capable of sucking.

By the time she made her introduction, we knew we had waded hip deep into opener Hell. The woman referred to her dreadful duet as Loop!Station, a name that described in entirety the ensemble’s sound.  Loop!Station was one jazzy mezzo-soprano and a cellist in front of an array of delay and loop pedals – and that’s it.  From the first repetitive stretch we suffered through it was clear that the band name, the equipment, the gimmick and the music itself was synonymous.  Their set was a series of improvisational loops layered one atop another without any rehearsal with each performer harmonizing with themselves and each other, sculpting a soundscape seemingly out of thin air.

The description is more romantic than the execution.  What in elevator pitch sounds like a fresh and unique musical performance is in practice an endurance match of extemporaneous vulgarity.  Without any context, without any structure, without any real beginning or end, each piece is forced to rely on the process as a crutch and that novelty is already worn to a bloody stump by the end of the first tune.  Both vocalist Robin Coomer and cellist Sam Bass are skilled players, but without any context for their technical ability the result is a sonic short bus driven by self-indulgence.

It takes a special kind of arrogance to suggest one’s musicianship has transcended the need for composition and here too Loop!Station falls miserably short.  Coomer and Bass are a dynamic, suitable pair but completely unremarkable save for this cheesy effects gimmick.  Never in the neverending drone of their set do either musician have any real solo that presses the limits of their technical ability.  And fairly, how could they?  Blistering riffs cannot possibly be expected to be composed on the spot, making the loop pedal gag an even greater restraint on their creativity than a song.

At the end of their set, the listener is left with a dissatisfaction not even a continuous string of gin and tonics could dull.  Neither the potential of the performer’s playing nor composition is displayed in any real capacity beyond this terrible parlor trick that got stretched into a full length concert.  The only remarkable achievement of the endless loop of this band is their ability to convert an extensive classical and jazz training into the equivalent of eurotrash techno.

Only you can’t dance to this rubbish.

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  • wow
  • Last professional dance performance I saw was the running production of The Marriage at the Alexandrinsky Theatre in St. Petersburg, though obviously that is not ballet. Last ballet I saw was the Lines troupe in Frisco.

    To answer the broader question, yes being a ballet dancer is a bitch of a time, but the difficulties they endure do not mean there are varying degrees of ability. I've seen the Boston ballet three times, and as strong as my fidelity to that town is, that company - like San Jose's - is just a repertory house. It is of course convenient, even essential, to have such an organization in one's own city and the good ones (which I'm willing to take your word includes SJ) can usually afford to bring in some thrilling soloists every year.

    But doing a plie doesn't make one a world class ballet anymore than running a cello through a loop station makes for world class music. The training and sacrifice to do both are undoubtedly significant, but are undoubtedly not immunities against criticism.

    Overwhelmingly I get the sense that your position is one from novelty; that because something looks classical it must automatically be good. Further, you assert that failure to appreciate a performance that includes bows and resin and pink frilly tutus is a result of poor education, which is equally silly.

    True virtuosity needs no primer. You don't need a high school degree to be able to hear the difference between Stevie Ray Vaughn and John Mayer. You don't need training to appreciate that the dancers at Lincoln Center are better than the dancers at the Providence Performing Arts Center. And any ju-co mechanic jackass can clearly tell that Loop!Station is not manned by Yo-Yo Ma and Ella Fitzgerald.

    I submit that your obsessive defense of this ensemble comes from an inability to pierce the thin veneer of culture to recognize the lack of substance and depth that lies beneath.

    Trolling over two months on a blog about a band suggests less erudition, not more.
  • james bobbit
    i am way beyond defending the band, at this point i am just calling you an idiot
  • Well, that line goes around the block with a fair number a lot better
    at it than you in front.
  • james bobbit
    interesting not about loopstation... rob wrote "Only you can’t dance to this rubbish." in his review. did you know the ballet san jose commissioned loopstation to write a 20 minute dance piece. the premiere runs for four nights at the end of this month. www.balletsanjose.org for tickets.
  • I view this as further evidence of their irrelevance.
  • james bobbit
    wait, so an artist getting paid by a major dance company to write and perform original music means they are irrelevant..? that is kind of an odd thing to say... maybe you are irrelevant... they also have a fourth album coming out... i know you're just going to love it...
  • The San Jose Ballet is not a major dance company nor would their patronage be significant if it were.

    They are, like Loop!Station, the barely qualified rotation of the same material ad nauseum. Only those who had not tasted better would be deceived by such sherry.
  • james bobbit
    rob, i have come to terms with you and your little blog... you are a "hater", probably a frustrated, mediocre musician/hobbyist that likes playing distorted guitar and ripping off third-eye-blind riffs.... hope you are "relevant" some day...
  • I think the cat is already out of the bag on that score, chief.
  • james bobbit
    in closing i offer this... in all of your entries you demonstrate an overwhelming arrogance and well... hmmm ignorance. take your comments on the san jose ballet. 1. when was the last time you attended a professional dance event? 2. you imply with your wine analogy that your taste is more refined than the thousands of people who enjoy performances by the san jose ballet each year. you are so much better than all of us rob... maybe we could open a shrine and worship your dirty laundry 3. calling the material they program each year "barely qualified" (i could do without the nutcracker, but those runs go a long way in funding their other, more interesting progrtams), shows further arrogance and igorance. hmmm on some of their programs this year you can hear stravinsky, ligeti, piazzolla,... that's some "barely qualified" stuff that you probably know nothing about. you can't hear some of this stuff everyday at in a big theater with professional dancers who give their life and body to an artistic endeavor they love so much they diet and work out for hours daily, braving injury and a lifestyle choices that we can't imagine.
    so you don't like loopstation's music... i think you miss the point... the evolution, the sound sculpturing, the heightened raw emotion... but hey, you have pretty much proved that you are arrogant, ignorant, mean and probably gay... so why should i care what you think?
  • T-Dub
    Wait. Third Eye Blind!? Fuck, dude. You told me you/we were ripping off Gwen Stefani, Fallout Boy, Yellow Card and Yanni.

    I trusted you!

    WTF!?!?
  • I didn't think you'd join if you knew my filthy, filthy secret.

    Now that it is exposed all I have left is shame and ruin.
  • T-Dub
    By 'exposed', you're not referring to dropping trou in front of that room full of 15 year old boys, were you?

    Have I said too much? Again?

    And James thinks dancers suffer for their art? Pfft. They've got nothing on bass players. Have you seen the rigs we have to cart around, James? On our own? We're a chiropractors wet dream. -That- is suffering for your art, yessir.
  • james bobbit
    i'll show you some suffering,,,, suffer this@#$%^
  • You can swear here James.

    This is the big kids table.
  • james bobbit
    you never answered my question regarding the last professional dance event that you attended, and how that qualifies you to write off an entire dance company as not the real thing... or have we regressed to smack talking...? i guess that is what your little site is all about anyways... that's cool...
  • james bobbit
    oh yeah, you guys are a bunch of weekend warrior, arm-chair quarterbacks that can't really do, so you just criticize... losers. also an article on your site that carries on about the state of music is a sophomoric attempt to sound smart by someone who attended music history 101 for dummies... come on, the stravinsky theater fight story... they teach that to you in 7th grade. it really shows how smart you are
  • We are officially breaking Disqus - my reply is in a new thread above.
  • We're going to have to start a new thread - this formatting is way ganked up.
  • james bobbit

    let's see... celine dion... can you say "auto tune". as far as "harmonic evolution and rhythmic progression, that makes music interesting" goes, when you get into modern popular music you are working in a medium of few surprises. do you prefer a I IV V I- four minute pop song? endless greatful dead jams? maybe some sensitive chris issak? some guy yelling over a distorted guitar? ooooh how original, how interesting! how long can you really listen to anyone before you have had enough... let's face it, most of the commonly listened to music these days is cliche and usually an unsuccessful attempt to re-invent something that wasn't that interesting in the first place and has already been done... 1,000,000 times before. kinda like vomit. live cello and vocal looping duo... there is like 2 in the world. does that make their music more interesting? not really. as far as these self indulgent accusations go-all art is self indulgent. an artist makes things that really appeal to him (he indulges himself) and then presents it to the public. that is so obvious, why should it be a criticism?
    being a big fan of both sam and robin i know of their earlier bands (sam) deadweight and (robin) birdsaw. i have also seen them both play other types of music (jazz, metal, classical, blues, folk hippy-jam-band) really well. birdsaw and deadweight were about as progressive and interesting as one could hope to hear. lots of surprises. i think their music now is way more accessible to the general public. good for them.
    what i am getting from reading this blog is that everyone thinks these guys are good musicians playing uninteresting or boring music. i guess it is all about personal taste and how some people have better taste than others, and why some people just gotta be haters. maybe you ought to stop and think about the discipline, talent and balls it takes to actually get out there and put your artistic ass on the line before you go dissing folks. i am amazed at the accomplishments of humans. the other day i saw a play acted out by two mentally retarded guys. pretty amazing accomplishment.

    there was an interesting article recently in a strings magazine that had this to say about sam bass:
    "Sam Bass, is a great classical cellist, but is best known for his bands Deadweight and Loop!Station, both of which have been incredibly inspiring to me as a composer. Sam is part of a new generation of performers who have taken these unbelievable classical chops and used them in entirely new contexts." the full article can be read at: http://www.stringsmagazine.com/article/default.aspx?articleid=23022&page=1.
    it is an interesting look at players as composers, classical guys that can jam and swing and are not straight, and how they are crossing over into other styles of music-comments on what they bring with them and how they are expanding genre and style.
    maybe loopstation should just start making abstract sound sculptures at art galleries, then they could get respect by all those purists playing in their basements.
  • Though this was nearly a month ago, I hadn't forgot to keep my word on giving Obey Your Signal a fair and thorough listen.

    My opinion remains unchanged, though I did get the record off eMusic and listened to it seven times through.

    Review is here - http://www.dreamnotoftoday.com/?p=1827
  • Don't have a full response, but did want to apologize for our comment system flagging this as spam. Sorry you had to submit this twice. :/

    Disqus for the fail.
  • james bobbit

    let's see... celine dion... can you say "auto tune". as far as "harmonic evolution and rhythmic progression, that makes music interesting" goes, when you get into modern popular music you are working in a medium of few surprises. do you prefer a I IV V I- four minute pop song? endless greatful dead jams? maybe some sensitive chris issak? some guy yelling over a distorted guitar? ooooh how original, how interesting! how long can you really listen to anyone before you have had enough... let's face it, most of the commonly listened to music these days is cliche and usually an unsuccessful attempt to re-invent something that wasn't that interesting in the first place and has already been done... 1,000,000 times before. kinda like vomit. live cello and vocal looping duo... there is like 2 in the world. does that make their music more interesting? not really. as far as these self indulgent accusations go-all art is self indulgent. an artist makes things that really appeal to him (he indulges himself) and then presents it to the public. that is so obvious, why should it be a criticism?
    being a big fan of both sam and robin i know of their earlier bands (sam) deadweight and (robin) birdsaw. i have also seen them both play other types of music (jazz, metal, classical, blues, folk hippy-jam-band) really well. birdsaw and deadweight were about as progressive and interesting as one could hope to hear. lots of surprises. i think their music now is way more accessible to the general public. good for them.
    what i am getting from reading this blog is that everyone thinks these guys are good musicians playing uninteresting or boring music. i guess it is all about personal taste and how some people have better taste than others, and why some people just gotta be haters. maybe you ought to stop and think about the discipline, talent and balls it takes to actually get out there and put your artistic ass on the line before you go dissing folks. i am amazed at the accomplishments of humans. the other day i saw a play acted out by two mentally retarded guys. pretty amazing accomplishment.

    there was an interesting article recently in a strings magazine that had this to say about sam bass:
    "Sam Bass, is a great classical cellist, but is best known for his bands Deadweight and Loop!Station, both of which have been incredibly inspiring to me as a composer. Sam is part of a new generation of performers who have taken these unbelievable classical chops and used them in entirely new contexts." the full article can be read at: http://www.stringsmagazine.com/article/default.aspx?articleid=23022&page=1.
    it is an interesting look at players as composers, classical guys that can jam and swing and are not straight, and how they are crossing over into other styles of music-comments on what they bring with them and how they are expanding genre and style.
    maybe loopstation should just start making abstract sound sculptures at art galleries, then they could get respect by all those purists playing in their basements.
  • james bobbit
    let's see, i know for a fact that loop!station rehearses and that their songs are composed. again, listen to one of their three records. regarding live shows-if you think it is easy to make a live recording (which is essentially what they are doing) then you don't know much about recording. let's see no fretted or well tempered instruments on stage, no click tracks and no backing tracks... yeah that's easy. as far as gimmicks goes... hmmmm andy warhol? terry reilly and other minimalist composers... or how about john cage and his piece for solo piano "4 minutes and 33 seconds of silence"? some esteemed circles call all those gimmicks " high art" working under the limitations of a foot pedal (which is called a loopstation) can create certain creative solutions that can be interesting and hell artful... i challenge you to listen to their third album in it's entirety "obey your signal" itunes... dig it
  • Again, not saying it isn't difficult. I am saying that it terribly
    boring. Also, I'm not the one saying their set was unrehearsed -
    Coomer was.

    In any case, I'll give the record a full and fair spin with a report
    later.
  • TDub
    Playing a cello is something most cellists should be able to do. And hopefully most any musician worth their salt has some sense of time, even if it's only the ability to hold a steady 120-ish bpm down. Most bands should also be able to play in time together, live, without the need for any sort of click track. The presence of those elements are not good criteria for defining 'a good band' or 'a worthwhile creative venture'. I mean, hell. Celine Dion can sing fretlessly, in tune, in different tempos, backed by a variety of different ensembles. And yet she still fucked over Rob's mom.

    I'm also not quite sure how the parallel is being drawn between someone like Cage, and these folks. They are a small ensemble, yes, but their music is not minimalistic. Rather, they seem to strive to create fairly dense compositions, but with as few individual voices as possible.

    Also: Minimalist composers tended to try and make specific points with their compositions. Cage's 4'33" had a very specific purpose. The point of the composition was to emphasize to the audience, the sounds that occur naturally all around them. People coughing, clothes rustling, programs opening and closing, seats squeaking, nervous and confused applause, and so on, and how all that could be interpreted as music in and of itself. Which is very neat conceptually. But he could have made the same statement by composing a piece titled: 1'33", and I don't know that anybody would have complained about the piece being too short (True story: I did an funk arrangement of the piece for wind ensemble in college - gave most of the solos to the timpani - and shortened it to 1'33". It went over pretty well once it was explained to the audience what we were on about). The point being, it was abstract and esoteric by design. Loop!Station, as best I can tell, is not aiming for either of those targets.

    I went through Loop!Station's site, and auditioned all the tracks that could be auditioned via the supplied links (which I think was their entire catalog). They do some very neat things conceptually, and as Rob has already stated, they're competent musicians. "blues cadenza and etude" for example, or "wintertime sucks", do really nice jobs demonstrating Mr. Bass' cello chops. And Ms. Coomer really does have a lovely and rich voice that she has excellent command of. But many of their tracks didn't have the harmonic evolution, or rhythmic progression, that makes music interesting. For me, at least.* The ideas that would bubble to the surface, I thought, were often great. But. I often found that after a minute or so...I'd gotten the point. And very often, I found myself looking for a contrasting section that just never seemed to materialize.

    Even minimalist composers understood that the audience's patience was finite. Which is why there are so many minimalist pieces that are two minutes or less (that and the whole 'minimalist' thing). The longer pieces tended to be rooted, to simplify it, in chaos theory. Wild change, constant evolution, and consistently protean harmonic, rhythmic, melodic and even instrumentation structures (4'33" is an excellent example of a piece designed to hit all those bases) are what allows minimalistic approaches to music to be interesting.

    If anything, I'd have like to have heard a kit drummer added. I think that would have created both a complimentary voice, but could also have provided a good contrast to the repetitive loops and the vocal melodic explorations, that both while often interesting, weren't always able to carry the weight of providing the needed momentum and movement. Plus, I just like the idea of somebody playing 'lead drum kit'.

    * DISCLAIMER: It's okay if you love this band, like you have never loved a band before. It doesn't make you a bad person, nor are your personal tastes invalidated by my personal opinion. So. Relax.
  • chas.
    This blog is written with the intent of reminding you what it was like when you first heard The Ramones.
    - i felt excited, like i had met my real family...
    What it was like when you first found out Columbus didn’t discover America.
    - i felt like i could see behind the facade of american inffalability, religion, politics, social mores, etc...
    What it was like when you first kissed that special someone and banged your teeth.
    - i felt things were only gonna get better...

    YOU on the other hand make me feel stupid for wasting my time on your lame, WAY bullshit "gritty, gonzo style" review of a very unique, often amazing band.
    Punk rock, you are not, unless you mean tired and pointless...
  • Novelty is not uniqueness and technique is not music. Loop!Station does
    sound different and its musicians are strong players, but I submit that
    without the substance of composition and rehearsal the work's attempt at
    originality is hindered its fundamental narcissism.

    Punk rock is the triumph of substance over ability, of authenticity over
    sophistication. If that is true, Loop!Station's only victory is their
    enchantment with the sound of their instruments over the listener's good
    will. The full basis of their music is a foot pedal - I don't see how it is
    any less musically bankrupt than low rent techno.
  • james bobbit
    interesting take on an interesting band. there music is actually not improvised, but composed. you should check out one of their three records (there website or itunes) there live show is an approximation of the recorded version. i find their music to have a more modern edge than most of the other crap out there and admire their attempts to be original. if you actually listen to all their albums and think your review is legitimate, i would be surprised.
  • If all their songs sounded exactly the same live, I'm not sure what is going to be dramatically different on wax.

    Attempting originality should be rightly applauded, but self-indulgence shouldn't. Just the name of the band declares this music more gimmick than gift.
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